Berk's Grapevine

Special Dragon Event at DreamWorks?


There will be a special How to Train Your Dragon 2 event happening at the DreamWorks campus in Glendale, California on October 24. The whole thing is rather mysterious, but if you are a dragon fan living in the Los Angeles area, you might want to check out this sign-up form:


There are no guarantees about whether you will be able to go and transportation is not provided. But if you're interested in seeing what will happen there, you may want to sign up!

Thanks, kris0ten!

234 comments:

  1. Now I wish I lived in Los Angeles so I could gone!

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  2. For those who are planning on going, please give me the details.

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  3. No i live in Turkey T-T

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  4. The third installment of the franchise was first scheduled for a release date on June 17, 2016, exactly the same date that Pixar would release the highly anticipated sequel to "Finding Nemo" entitled, "Finding Dory." It's now being pushed on June 9, 2017.
    Not that the dragon-themed animation will not encounter any competition when it moved its release date a year after as "The Lego Movie 2"will reportedly debut on the 26th of May, hence the weekend would basically be a competition between the two films.
    Thus, it's safe to assume that DreamWorks Animation is confident that it'll put up a good fight with "The Lego Movie 2."
    Originally, the "How To Train Your Dragon" franchise is set as a trilogy, but following the release of the second sequel word has it that the Animation studio is already considering a fourth sequel claiming that the writer/director for both of the Dragon films, Dean DeBlois, has opened his door for the possibility of the fourth sequel.
    Are you worried about "How To Train Your Dragon" 3 release date or are you confident that the film will again gain box office success? Sound off in the comments section bel

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  5. I live in Finland. D:

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  6. Aaaaaaaaannnnnnnnd....


    Yet again my location just isn't the greatest when it comes to going to Dragons stuff! But, still, this is very cool! Any fans who live in CA should really take advantage of this!

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  7. Sadly, I live far away from Calafornia and can't go :(

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  8. Oh man I live on the east coast so that is not going to happen.

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  9. I will absolutely go to this! I'm so intrigued.

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  10. Ziggerastica's KalevalaSeptember 26, 2014 at 9:35 PM

    Well, of course it's in California.

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  11. VelocityTheSpeedStingerSeptember 26, 2014 at 9:49 PM

    Be sure to tell us all about it! :D

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  12. http://www.reddit.com/r/httyd

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  13. Maybe they will finly give us a look at the short or season 3 and 4 of the tv series on netflix!

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  14. The third installment of the franchise was first scheduled for a release date on June 17, 2016, exactly the same date that Pixar would release the highly anticipated sequel to "Finding Nemo" entitled, "Finding Dory." It's now being pushed on June 9, 2017.
    Not that the dragon-themed animation will not encounter any competition when it moved its release date a year after as "The Lego Movie 2"will reportedly debut on the 26th of May, hence the weekend would basically be a competition between the two films.
    Thus, it's safe to assume that DreamWorks Animation is confident that it'll put up a good fight with "The Lego Movie 2."
    Originally, the "How To Train Your Dragon" franchise is set as a trilogy, but following the release of the second sequel word has it that the Animation studio is already considering a fourth sequel claiming that the writer/director for both of the Dragon films, Dean DeBlois, has opened his door for the possibility of the fourth sequel.
    Are you worried about "How To Train Your Dragon" 3 release date or are you confident that the film will again gain box office success? Sound off in the comments section belo

    Plus keep me Updated to Whoever going to the Dragons Event October 24th.

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  15. I love my country but......WHYYYYYY!?!

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  16. D: Whaaaa? Oh, curse you school for making me miss this wonderful event! DX And it's on the other side of the country too. AUGH!

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  17. *Looks inside pocket: no money for a flight*


    Dang it!

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  18. Couldn't have said it better than myself -_-

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  19. Someone who lives in L.A, who attend the event, ought to tell us everything about this event!

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  20. Toothless the Dragon KingSeptember 27, 2014 at 2:50 PM

    L.A?

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  21. Ziggerastica's KalevalaSeptember 27, 2014 at 6:01 PM

    Glendale shouldn't be that far from the Los Angeles area, but of course, the traffic is horrendous in urban cities. Hope someone arrives there on time and comments about it.

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  22. Ziggerastica's KalevalaSeptember 27, 2014 at 8:14 PM

    Just something I saw but didn't have a memory card to capture by camera. Which is a shame because this was spectacular! The yellow-golden sunlight around the bottom, the moving giant gray cloud above, how the clouds looked like the jumble of rocks forming what may be The Prince of Egypt version of Mount Sinai (in film, seen only from with-on, but not from wide view), and how everything was to perfect scale! They were the kind of cloud formations that every dragon fan should search for! So here's my attempted sketch:

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  23. Ziggerastica's KalevalaSeptember 27, 2014 at 8:27 PM

    Sorry, had to resize it to under 2 MB. Here it is:

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  24. to bad i'm over 5000 miles away

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  25. Toothless the Dragon KingSeptember 28, 2014 at 2:10 PM

    no i am far away from it
    I live in Middle East...
    Saudi Arabia, Jeddah

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  26. Ziggerastica's KalevalaSeptember 28, 2014 at 5:14 PM

    I'm just applying it to the CA area. We're both too far to reach it.

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  27. Ziggerastica's KalevalaSeptember 28, 2014 at 6:33 PM

    I wonder if Chris Sanders might be there, seeing how he was co-working with Dean Deblois from the screenplay of Mulan to the first HTTYD movie. He then went to do the Croods, which is getting a sequel and TV series (unless it's Wild Thornberrys minus Dolittle and Crocodile Hunter, plus a castaway, I have no idea what'll happen in his next feature, but it's surely a bit zany). But aside from that. I'm wondering if, since Sanders isn't on the CREATIVE SIDE of the HTTYD franchise anymore, if that means mentioning him has become unrelated to HTTYD. I enjoy both directors, by the way! Just needed to see if the lucky visitor might get to meet both of them.

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  28. i live nearby so im definitely signing up. hope i get an invite this would be super cool to be a part of, whatever /it/ is lol

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  29. That's the thing that these islands,Philippines,will never have... Why do they always get the good stuff!?

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  30. I feel the same way with Australia with having a DreamWorks museum! XP Talk about unfair.

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  31. Toothless the Dragon KingSeptember 29, 2014 at 8:25 AM

    Join me in school of Dragons and Fanghook
    My friend code is AGLWVG
    Please

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  32. Well Chris Sanders did co-write and co-director the first How To Train Your Dragon movie so he'll always be associated with HTTYD.

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  33. Man I wish I could go. I like living in Ireland but it's so far away from... everything heh!

    BUT I am going to the "DreamWorks Animation: Taking Flight and Beyond" event in London which is an "illustrated talk" with Bonnie Arnold, Dean DeBlois and Cressida Cowell. I hope to record the event too if I'm allowed so we'll see.

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  34. Ziggerastica's KalevalaSeptember 29, 2014 at 3:57 PM

    I saw a HicksDerHune video with a Night Fury's view of Berk, and it switched from sketch to digital paint to CGI layout, then CGI with props and characters. All on a panoramic screen wider than a 1960s Ben-Hur movie (that's wider than any modern movie). Now I'm not expecting a wide-view experience if this Taking Flight and Beyond event is on a screen. Uh, what is an illustrated talk then if it isn't a sketched people interview? Either way, it sounds exciting.

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  35. Ziggerastica's KalevalaSeptember 29, 2014 at 4:00 PM

    Does joining via friend require that I already have membership?
    And how limited-time do these offers last before SoD decides to pull them down, if they do?

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  36. Too bad I live on the other side of the Earth. :(

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  37. I honestly have no idea what the event entails but the screen in the event is not that big I think. It's in the BFI Southbank in London so the screen is a "12.6ft x 30ft (3.8m x 9.2m), Matt white, mini-perf screen".


    I'm hoping it's not just rehashed interviews. On my YouTube (DragonBassist) I have a lot of them uploaded so seeing them again isn't really what I want heh.


    I was hoping that the talk would be given by them in person but the more I find out, it's not looking that way but we'll see :D

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  38. It's on:
    Oct 14, 2014 5:30 PM
    BFI Southbank, NFT1
    It's currently sold out too :O

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  39. Ziggerastica's KalevalaSeptember 30, 2014 at 3:46 PM

    If you wanna talk to the creators, the best way to do that is by attending a convention (con), where they promote to fans (who're in costume), and answer questions. By the way, if you're a fan of voice actors and movies in general, I highly recommend finding one. My friend went to one after her graduation, and now going to an animation con is on my bucket list of adolescence.

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  40. Ziggerastica's KalevalaSeptember 30, 2014 at 3:51 PM

    By the way, they actually reveal this information about screens? They don't tell American audiences anything about the screen. Now I'm back to suspecting that the screen I saw Frozen on was shorter than the HTTYD2 screen. Ironically, I saw Frozen in 3D (they say 3D=bigger), and HTTYD in 2D

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  41. I talked with my friend that I met at the London DragonMeet and he says that they will be at the talk (he showed me a tweet from Dean and he says "looking forward to being back in London!") so that's cool :D

    Yeah the BFI guys have an FAQ on their website. They list all the specs of the screens there too :D I saw HTTYD2 in IMAX 3D in the BFI IMAX which on the site is a "20m x 26m" screen (largest in Britain). Zer0x on the forum (one of the moderators) is cinema expert, I could ask him any questions you have?

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  42. Ziggerastica's KalevalaSeptember 30, 2014 at 10:05 PM

    With us, they just have a location and list of movies showing over the course of the month, and that's it. Also, I'm in a small town, so they can't separate a 2D and 3D showing (thanks to this, I got tricked into going to a 2D showing, but hours never admired anyone). It's worse when there's multiple websites, either the screen sponsor or the actual theater site. Generally, we'd say that a huge screen taller than a house equals IMAX (too distant from here), but there's less than 900 of them in the world. So we just go to average screens, whatever that means.
    Side note: Imagine a theater called "60 Screenings"!

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  43. Then you have to be our eyes and ears ! :)

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  44. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 1, 2014 at 9:26 PM

    Cutting it close for mid-terms, they do.
    (snickering in gibberish); "A'an udt grwth wree?" UUUGH!! Now Faerie Dragon, it's mission time!

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  45. No oh man I would love to go but living in London in a pain sometimes I'm going to move there when I'm older hopefully that is but there is a dragon event on the14th of October in pidgin I already have tickets for it so I'm happy just whoever goes details please xxx

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  46. Hi I'm also going to the show as well I'm taking my friend it's her birthday the day after shop I'm surprising her hopefully see you there and apparently it's like showing clips and special art work from the film it should be fun since it is for children and others so I'm looking forward to seeing dean again and cressida but I would love to meet bonnie xxx

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  47. They're not sold out yet there are indeed some still available to buy mostly at the back now though but still great seats xxx

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  48. I'm all the way in Malaysia.
    Well, to those in California, have fun! Don't miss out this opportunity.

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  49. Sneaky camera mode activate :D

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  50. FirewheelTheSkullcrusherOctober 2, 2014 at 8:39 PM

    Hey guys remember me????

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  51. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 2, 2014 at 11:02 PM

    I wasn't a member then, but I remember you. Your the one who posted that Ignito (fire-sword) concept art, right?

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  52. Toothless the Dragon KingOctober 3, 2014 at 6:25 AM

    Noooo its free just go to left corner near clans. A window will popup in the last option type my friend code the request has come.

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  53. Toothless the Dragon KingOctober 3, 2014 at 6:29 AM

    sooooo bored

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  54. Hey, you may not recognize me I am Johntheoceanzap 2.0

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  55. ah! hey I remember you!! hey!! how r ya?? XD

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  56. oh dear!! why do I even live in England??!

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  57. AAAAAAAHHHHH I LIVE ACROSS THE ATLANTIC OCEAN
    NOT FAIR XD

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  58. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 3, 2014 at 3:37 PM

    Alright, I'll see if I can do it after I get through the dragon challenge cards today. For some reason, I sense hope that this uses cloud storage instead of hard drive storage, which would last only for the rest of the year then be full. I wish my other programs could be transferred to work on the go, namely my music transcription software. Anyway, my card game schedule changed again, so waiting for it might keep me up all night for 3 measely challenges a day until I can track it.

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  59. Of course I remember you!

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  60. hey, never seem to be on when everyone else is XD

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  61. FirewheelTheSkullcrusherOctober 3, 2014 at 9:31 PM

    ouch! haha

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  62. FirewheelTheSkullcrusherOctober 3, 2014 at 9:31 PM

    hi john

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  63. FirewheelTheSkullcrusherOctober 3, 2014 at 9:32 PM

    i am good

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  64. FirewheelTheSkullcrusherOctober 3, 2014 at 9:32 PM

    yup

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  65. Hello, I'm new. And nowhere near LA either. Please post what happens and any new dragons I can put in my Book of Dragons I made. Thank you in advance!

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  66. I hope there are new dragons! Also hi, I'm new.

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  67. VelocityTheSpeedStingerOctober 4, 2014 at 9:22 PM

    Welcome!

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  68. MartianArchaeologistOctober 4, 2014 at 10:59 PM

    Absolutely go, if you can.

    What they're probably looking for are people with a good Web presence, either a Berk's Grapevine site (Icelandic Eel is undoubtedly going!) or a Tumblr site, or someone who has a great story about Dragons fandom, like UserToothless, or costuming. This is a publicity event for the DVD, and it should be good. They really value fan participation and know how powerful the fandom is (the fan reports from the Comic-Con presentation made the stock go up, did you know that?)

    I'm what they call a "lurker" and so probably would not be a good candidate to attend this, but man if I were, I would so drive there.

    As it is, go. Then post profusely. I own Dreamworks stock, so you will be doing me a favor both ways!

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  69. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 5, 2014 at 7:13 AM

    It happens. When I joined two months ago, my first comment's picture wouldn't show up until I retyped the entire comment. And what's worse is how I ended up having multiple images in each comment 'cause the image took forever to appear while typing. Now, we've recently been getting notifications about a "new" Disqus comments setup, where we have a notification window open atop the page instead of a direct new tab. I prefer the earlier version because you could actually scroll to the top without the bar blocking the cursor. So yeah, Disqus problems will be abound. Now, I wouldn't be sure if new dragons will be revealed at this event (wouldn't that be for a Dragons TV series promo?), but there are 4 locked cards at the highest rank of the Dragons Challenge card game on howtotrainyourdragon.com and I assume half of them might be new dragons (no stats posted in the Dragonpedia, never before seen. But of course, it'll take months to get there and make sure (don't spoil what it is if you're playing it). Still, new dragons would be over-the-top awesome! I can't go due to distance and midterm exams. I'll never quite get how California works aside from it's half-corrupt liberal drivers/ politics.

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  70. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 5, 2014 at 9:09 AM

    A lurker, huh? Sounds like a category I might fall under. What exactly is a lurker? (I'm not big on social media aside from here).
    Fan participation isn't in print in my area, so I can't say I'd "participate" anyway. Still, critics were constantly saying how DreamWorks was at risk at the beginning of this year and HTTYD2 was the saving grace, so good luck with your stock. And I'll also be looking forward to profuse posting from the attenders.

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  71. Yeah, you're right. But have you seen the doodles on Hiccup's map? They're on the wiki and here are the names:
    Torturous Thunderfire?? That's how I read it
    Bubblebock...odd name
    Dounbace...even odder
    Bighound...Tracker class!
    Green Thunder...doodle looked like a Skrill
    And that's all we know. Torturous Thunderfire definetly sounds like a dragon I'd want to see appear in Season 3.

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  72. VelocityTheSpeedStingerOctober 5, 2014 at 11:22 AM

    What is your favorite thing about HtTYD?

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  73. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 5, 2014 at 2:06 PM

    Bubblebock sounds like either a tidal class dragon that inflates itself or a stoker or boulder class (I think) that has skin that boils at will. Dounbace=downbase or dune-base? Bighound, well you've answered, And Green Th-thundah! Torturous Thunderfire sounds like a stoker, so I'll be surprised if it's actually a strike. What suprises me is that we have yet to see a Snaptrapper in action and yet they somehow have a rendered model of one on howtotrainyourdragon.com.

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  74. XD,You're back?!

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  75. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 5, 2014 at 5:47 PM

    Hiccup: "Hey, uh, Daggur. Remember the time when you used me as your target in the sharp-shooter contest a few years back?"
    Daggur: "Yeah. Bored again! I want to see the weapons stock!"
    [Hiddeous Zippleback sneak approach aborted an umpteenth time]

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  76. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 5, 2014 at 5:54 PM

    "Nope, I'm sure we heard that. Um, welcome back-"
    "I, have come BACK. To LIFE!"
    "Okay. we don't know anything about a vigilante, or- or an ice-breathing dragon, or anything."
    "You will kneel before your new Master of the Dragon Sword, or your dragons are mine!"
    "Former Eret?"
    "Who's Eret? I am not Eret. His name was Eret, Son of Eret. And I am (okay, I'll let Firewheel finish this line)!

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  77. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 5, 2014 at 6:04 PM

    John, did you zap number 1, Johntheoceanzap number 1 of 2 in the Berk John reply basement or was John cut off by a non-John or John-you?
    Tongue twisters! Ooh!

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  78. MartianArchaeologistOctober 6, 2014 at 2:09 AM

    Actually one share of stock is the same price as about two theater tickets right now, and I just wanted to get some and then go around yelling "THE DRAGONS ARE MINE NOW!!!" in a Drago-kind of voice. 8)


    Yeah, a lurker is one that lurks around reading and enjoying much but saying little.

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  79. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 6, 2014 at 3:17 PM

    Well, if it isn't any semblance to an Eddie Money reference! "Two tickets to paradise. - And I've also caught their riders for no extra charge." until I became a Grapeviner. Now I'm still a lurker on youtube, reading comments and watching reviews, looking for recommendations for other sites and critiques, not to mention reactions (they say you can pinpoint the exact second where someone goes berserk, but only if your computer loads streaming media efficiently). There's plenty I could say on it, but I won't try it until I actually have a posted video (to avoid looking absolutely naïve in the realm of fanvideo making, but still establish my restrictions on what I can find acceptable). So I'm a lurker, just not here.
    Well, I used to be a lurker on all things

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  80. Aw, the one time I wish I lived in Cali....

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  81. I would NEVER be able to watch an animation of a boiling-skin dragon!!! Very good theory but I'm so squeamish about those kinds of things, hehehe. Never thought about different spelling of the name for Dounbace, makes more sense. Forgot to mention the Dashwing, another map doodle-I'm thinking Strike class.
    Also saw something interesting-on the Dragonpedia, the pictures of the Timberjack had the tiny tiny word "TV" (if that can be considered a word) in the corner like all the Riders and Defenders of Berk pictures, which probably means it'll be featured in Season 3. Though I'm not sure about the Snaptrapper. I thought they put up a model just for the site. But I could be wrong. And I'm just glad they did put the Red Death on the site because we were all mostly going on speculation with it until they did. Now we know it used a homing signal to call the dragons, when I thought they were working for it out of fear which they kind of were but not exactly...? I guess? Sorry I can't explain it very well. But you know what I mean.
    One thing more, though-I wish they'd put up the Snafflefang, Raincutter and especially the Boneknapper dragons!

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  82. Hahaha, the Dragons! Definitely the dragons! Except the Hotburple. Actually my name, StormcutterFury, is a combination of my 2 favorite dragons- the Stormcutter(obviously)and the Night Fury. However I'm also a fan of the Deadly Nadder, the Skrill and the Flightmare.

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  83. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 6, 2014 at 4:12 PM

    I might have figured out a way to explain why fire-breathing came into the conception of dragons. And This applys to the whole lore about how dragons are powerful beings with high endurance and strength. I found it when I was running in physical ed. class. The weather was warm and lacking humidity for the moment, which should be ideal for running. However, as I ran, I felt the air in my lungs get colder, and my ability to handle a lap was dwindling because of it. I figured that if a creature could last so long doing intense activities in a wide range of temperatures, it had to have a homeostasis (maintain internal body temperature) beyond homeostasis. It had to keep each individual function heated to its normal temperature no matter how intense the activity or the cold. This could work because dragons have strong muscles that seem to have an extraordinary amount of power, whereas other animals lose our energy quickly. It quite literally gets its steam internally, and the burning helps its metabolism in ways some consider to be unnatural. Its body is reptilian, but have you noticed that even though it's a "cold-blooded animal," it still doesn't hibernate in cold weather? That's because it's not cold blood. It is heated by the metabolic firepower in its unique bloodstream. And the skin is just a layer used by the internal functions to check how much heat is needed: more warmth in the snow, less in the volcano. So they can adapt to intensity and temperature in unprecedented ways.
    Two drawbacks: 1. Fresh dragon's blood must be described as hot.
    2. The earliest concepts of a fire-breathing dragon must establish that a dragon's fire was hotter the more powerful and enduring it was physically or the colder the weather was. Sadly, these stories existed long before any human had a conception about internal energy and biology.

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  84. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 6, 2014 at 4:42 PM

    The raincutter's up for sure. The snafflefang sounds like it has a mouth similar to a carnivorous plant with filaments, or a mix between Whispering Death and Snaptrapper. Dashwing definitely souds like strike class.
    I always thought the way the queen worked was always confirmed. The stat's surprised me. But all I needed to make sense of it was this scenario: A Monstrous Nightmare freely consumes and gathers food for itself and its young. Afterwards, it gathers its food in a nest stash atop a sea-stack. But then it turns its ear a centimeter forward, and suddenly it has an urge to follow a humming sound (The Queen's Homing Signal). Caught at the very edge of the Queen's massive range, it hypnotically grabs the young and food and clings to them as it flies to the Queen's island. The Monstrous Nightmare hadn't eaten its own meal for days, at least since it had begun stashing its food on the sea-stack. In the island den, the hum is confirmed to be demanding food, and the hypnotized dragon drops everything in it's stash, including the youngest young, which had yet to learn flying. The Monstrous Nightmare is released, hungry and tired for some forgotten reason, and goes out to hunt, only to Sisyphean up (repeat) the situation all over again. No dragon under a queen's control can stash its meal from outside the queen's signaling distance. A dragon can only hunt. This is why dragons gets food from Berk, because it is outside her boundaries, but they dragons wouldn't be out for long before their ears twitch and echolocation happens. Groncles sleep-flying and eyes slitting. And steam from the den all the way through.

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  85. Wow, that never struck me when I watched the movie.
    The Snafflefang is actually confirmed and featured in the second movie. and eats geodes, because of its diamond-hard teeth. I'll include a picture, and in the picture it's missing a leg because it was hurt by a dragon trap.
    I kinda have a hard time picturing a Nightmares ears "twitching", because I don't know where their ears are actually located, but I know what you mean.

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  86. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 6, 2014 at 5:06 PM

    This might sound weird, but until I discovered HTTYD, I was never a fan of mythical creatures (still not hyped by zombies and vampires). So dragons weren't what drew me into the fandom. Rather, it was a mix of everything. And I've recently found another film that might have contended against it on my ever-evolving list of favorite movies: Super 8. That movie was very perfectly executed in all but perhaps one or two shots (no film's without a flaw). Both are well paced. But here's the difference. Super 8 was great from the beginning, and my expectations didn't need to evolve with each viewing. But with HTTYD, it took me quite a journey. I actually began my interest in it from the fandom itself. And while I knew I would mostly enjoy it, there were certain moments that made me prepare for cringe. I exposed myself to those moments until it didn't bothered me and tried to figure out the reason behind those choices. In doing so, I've begun to establish my idea of what works in a movie and why. And this movie is my ultimate influence for that, taking tons of poor clichés and turning it into something we love. And I'm attached to the movie to the point where if I'm not into dragons on a given day, then I won't be interested in any movie. It's something I learned about favorites: Sometimes, a film becomes special because of its mix of good AND bad elements. Everyone has a different take on what works and what doesn't, and everyone finds something in which their affinity is tested. And this is why no one has the same preferences, why we adapt to like certain things while also establishing what we like, what we can't stand, and how we take exceptions to them. No one expected this to be a great movie at first, but then they saw it, and no one was the same as the ones waiting in line. Long comment, but that's why this film's great to me. I can really get into it on so many unexpected levels.

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  87. I did have an interest in mythical creatures and still do, but I liked Gryphons and Pheonixes and Dragons, not zombies or vampires either. I'll check out Super 8 and see what it's about. Maybe I'll like it. However I would like to ask you a question: do you like foxes? Random I know but I love foxes. And if not what is your favorite animal? If you have one. You don't have to answer if you don't want to but this is just out of curiosity.

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  88. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 6, 2014 at 5:17 PM

    So that's the injured dragon Valka introduced before Gruff the Hobblegrunt! The Snafflefang!
    Well, I could mean a Night Fury's ear. Theirs tons of dragons "in the haze".
    I've made a comment a few posts back saying "What two dragons would you choose if you can pick any dragon that isn't one of the six in the first movie. Also, it can't be the Red/Green Death, obviously." Looks like you've semi-answered already. I remember having a Hobblegrunt for land and another (forgot which) for air (a reference to how Dragon Training stages worked in the books).

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  89. Just thought of something! What if they are having 1. A giant viewing of Dragons 2 OR 2. A giveaway of the DVD?

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  90. Hmmm...part of the reason I'd have a dragon is flying. I've always wanted to fly on a dragon. That's why I picked such fast dragons with such spectacular flight skills. For land, I'd have a Nadder!
    Hahaha, yes Valka's Snafflefang happens to be named Lump, which in my opinion does not display phenomenal creativity on her part. Her Raincutter, incidentally, is named...Thump. -_-

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  91. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 6, 2014 at 5:29 PM

    I avoided having interest in rabid animals, but we have foxes and deer where I am (welcome to the borderline eastern South!). However, I am terrible at answering favorites, so none of my answers would be correct (And they say opinions can't be wrong!). However, I have recently (re)discovered The Wild Thornberrys, which is really getting me back into the wee early years of my childhood when I was into nature but couldn't explore it. (I didn't know it was a show at the time because I watched the PBS channel in those days- "Zaboomafoo"- and was quick to change the channel before my parents caught me watching Saturday noon cartoons on Nick. Cartoon Network was awesome. After the second season of Dragons began, I've been trying to break that hiatus from animation that every growing boy has to go through by the seventh grade. Darn the middle school psychology!)

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  92. Wow. When I was little I was, for some reason, OBSESSED with the Thornberrys but completely forgot about that until you mentioned it. It's still a good show in my opinion...but my love for the show was almost embarrassing! Yet now that I am infatuated with How to Train Your Dragon, I am starting to wonder what this says about my personality.

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  93. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 6, 2014 at 5:46 PM

    Hey look! Ruff and Tuff are (head bash)...well, yeah.
    I'm acrophobic, and my feet (wide flatfoot with a ball heel and weak ankle) goes into pain too easily when I land in any way. (It should be known that acrophobians don't only worry about falling. They worry about the impact, the Murphy's law, and the bump of someone's bones.) But even then, I've always been fascinated with flying, and this is the first movie of dragons I saw that really took advantage of the fact that dragons can fly in ways that no machine or even bird can. It took us on an experience, and I could watch that dive shot during "Test Drive" forever. Why didn't I see it in 3D?!! (I won't complain further since this 3D issue I've had was literally in the first four comments I've ever typed on the Vine.) And how they gave the first dragon (Toothless) a prosthetic tail to begin those flights with a balance between the limits of reality and the unlimited abilities of the dragon world of flight: Genius!

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  94. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 6, 2014 at 5:48 PM

    I want features! The room ups the experience, but I also want to explore the film, so home media for me!

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  95. Me too. I didn't see it in 3D because whenever I try to watch something in 3d I find that it's better the normal way. But that's just me. The Test Drive scene was my favorite in the movie as well, my second favorite was the Red Death battle and 3rd was the drawing in the dirt thingy. Here's some map doodle pics, couldn't put them all.

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  96. Or maybe I can let's see
    ...Ah-ha! There we are!

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  97. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 6, 2014 at 6:03 PM

    You'll get used to it. That's how I felt about animation. It's something that all adults say you'll grow out of, and though I've had a hiatus from it, I've never outgrown it. Society's changed to encompass the nerds and geeks in ways the grunge era didn't want to expect. (That's something I learned in the awful movie year of 2005, when every teen was portrayed as if they still lived in the era of 1989-Beavis and Butthead finale. Even before I was ten, it was the most insulting thing I've been through in a live-action movie at the time.) I saw the Thornberrys in a movie, but never remembered the title of their show being on Nick's slot. I'm watching it to await for the next season of Dragons and Korra, but there are too few episodes of it online, and I can't update my Adobe Flash Player without buying an entirely new Windows-8 compatible computer. Inconvenient timing! And I still have to gripe about how the next season of Dragon's only on Netflix! (mimics Drago's scream)

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  98. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 6, 2014 at 6:32 PM

    I still can't decide between "Test Drive," "New Tail," or "Romantic Flight" for my favorite moments, but there's far too much to like about the others as well!
    "New Tail" is special to me because of a number of reasons:
    When I was 7 and through middle school, I wanted to be an inventor. Hiccup was the epitome of how I wanted to be. And the way he makes the tail out of old Viking material and technology is exactly how I would have wanted to build a tail. "Maybe if I can get a leatherworking and metalworking class in the next Scout Summer Camp, I could try to make one myself, but that's longs away. It also encompasses why I love minor-key songs. Not only are they emotional even by accident, but they are also mysterious. It's a sad cantabile (singing-like) melody against unexpressive bass, and the results feel like the smithy itself: You sweat till you're slaved, only to live that way continuously. ("Chasing the Sun" by The Wanted is a song that did a similar effect by having a half-monotoned singer say lines like "I'm better" or "I'm never down" ironically on sad minor chord notes and having a somewhat circular feel to their riff progression.) And the cinematography with minimal lighting was purely emotional in ways, that like the moments piece of music score, I'm still trying to conjure up a way to explain. There's an intensity in the scene even when you know no one's up to disrupt him and discover his secret. And It is edited with such great pacing. Okay, I'm just gonna say it: this movie is perfectly paced to me. If there ever was a 24-hour movie that paced the amount of material it has at the rate of this movie (as in, not proportionally), I doubt I'll get bored by it. It knows how to let us sink in a moment, then let it slip away like butter with out abruption. And every movie's different in how they should be paced, but I wish they kept the same editors from the first film on HTTYD2.

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  99. VelocityTheSpeedStingerOctober 6, 2014 at 9:11 PM

    I'm all for the dragons too! My favorite is the Speed Stinger (in case you didn't guess from my username) ;D

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  100. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 6, 2014 at 9:33 PM

    The Bubblebock actually looks like I'd imagine it would. The Dounbace has the most dinosaur-esque qualities, and It looks boulder class. Ferocious Thunderfire looks like the strike class version of Timberjack. Dashwing has to be related to the Deadly Nadder. The Green Thunder could be a sharp or strike class, I think. By the way, I've just got to level 4 in the Training Card Challenge, and this level features a lot of the species you've been mentioning. Convenient timing or what?

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  101. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 6, 2014 at 9:45 PM

    And Super 8 is about a group of late 1970s kids who are filming a no-budget zombie movie while a sci-fi conspiracy unravels with the Air Force. Oh, and feels from the very first shot of the movie. J.J. Abrams replicated the early Spielbergan style, too. That's all I'll say before spoiler corner. It doesn't focus on the zombie-movie stuff, in case that's a problem.

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  102. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 6, 2014 at 9:55 PM

    Nebraska? I crossed there, and all that was on radio was a chess game. Song 13, check! Song 14, king moves. Song 15...
    You don't have to say anything if you're not from Nebraska. That's just my reaction to cross-country moving through the plains, that and elevation.

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  103. Where can you buy the cards?

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  104. Nope, not quite Nebraska. LOL! To be honest, I've never even been to Nebraska...

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  105. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 7, 2014 at 4:17 PM

    Eh, avoid the highway. Unless there's a turnpike with a visitor center, nothing interesting's that way. It's shocking how this is what most think of the South, nothing but fields of rural pastures and pests, but that's not entirely true. I'm not sure what I'd call myself, a rural/town guy or a city guy. I'm no farm person, but I'm no metropolitan. Don't you just loathe how there is now middle mouse? Oh, and now I have to get meal for Cedarain (my small Trough Trobber dragon).

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  106. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 7, 2014 at 4:24 PM

    You don't. It's a game on howtotrainyourdragon.com. It's the one you enter by clicking the join button on the "Do you have what it takes to be a dragon trainer?" banner at the bottom of the screen. Just get a username, password, activate account through email address, and create a Viking name. They'll give you the first card free (mine was the Monstrous Nightmare). After that, they give you three challenges a day and if you win a challenge, you'll get...tokens (gold points). Collect enough to purchase more cards (points, not money) and level up on the way to level 5.

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  107. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 7, 2014 at 4:29 PM

    The drawing scene: "I'm gonna maroon you on this island here. It's gonna be filled with lines of insanity. The only way I'll let you out is if you realize not to step into the lines of those insanities. After all, how do I trust the madmen you humans call Vikings? I give you a chance because you seem different. Are you, Hiccup? (dots the dirt and continues drawing spiritedly). Don't smudge my work!"

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  108. There is an actual card version. I just can not find them anywhere but ebay. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR2.TRC0.A0.H0.Xtopps+how+to+train+your+dragon.TRS0&_nkw=topps+how+to+train+your+dragon&_sacat=0

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  109. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 7, 2014 at 6:23 PM

    I don't go online shopping. We actually avoid it. So I'm stuck with whatever's here. And frankly, nothing's here. To the point where there were only 3 groups in the theater when I went to see HTTYD2 (second week). Only one promo appeared on my TV (ovation channel). Also, there are hardly any ads for the TV series during its run. So there is nothing of merchandise I've access to. And now they wont have HTTYD costumes here either. I wanted to be Hiccup or Tuffnut. But then again, I'm at that awkward age where no costume fits and I'm supposed to be coming-of-age. So I'd only wear costume, not trick-or-treat. Besides, I've an errand that night.

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  110. Dudes, it's almost November. It's almost Dragons.

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  111. Yes there are cards, and I bought mine at Walmart, but I don't have the Snafflefang. That I got off the internet. And very convenient timing about the Challenge Game! I'm only on level 3.

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  112. I'm so excited for tomorrow because my school is showing HTTYD2 in 3D and in a real theater too! :D We're an art school so we tend to like animation. A LOT. And it helps that a lot of people that went there end up working at DreamWorks when they graduate. XD

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  113. What about some scenes from HTTYD2? I like the scene where Valka captures Hiccup, the Stoick's ship scene and the final battle.

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  114. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 8, 2014 at 3:16 PM

    I tended to use experience bonus on level 3- using a card from the previous level to increase points. Some classes have an advantage over others, the most surprising of which is the sharp advantage over boulder (scissors cuts rock? LOL). I still have to get Powerful Toothless after all else is said and done.

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  115. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 8, 2014 at 3:25 PM

    I can't really tell my size (18-30) and if it's written as Youth Small or Adult Medium- why did they incept the conception of that measure? But then there's credit card, delivery, the fact that "models may vary," and a few price gambles/auctions. So yeah, not allowed to trust online shops. Besides, we had to use our last warning to buy a replacement Pixar Lego piece. So purchase should make preferable, unless the costume size is vaguely described and in a bag! M, S, L, XL, XXL
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  116. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 8, 2014 at 4:06 PM

    I don't have enough clips to analyze those well yet. When I saw Dragons 2, I was first focusing on the pacing. The third act was great, and I love how Usertoothless analyzed the training techniques of Hiccup/Drago/Valka and Drago's motives. But the first and second act (if Valka kidnapping Hiccup marks act 2) were kind of iffy in their pacing. At first, Act one was fast and act 2 was perfect. But on second viewing, act one was perfect and act 2 felt rushed. You can sense where the acts separate a little too easily. But aside from that, even compared to Pixar films, this was the first film I ever went to a theater for and knew I would enjoy full-on. I indulged the movie while waiting to get accustomed to the ridiculous moments (Toothless' clapping spikes?) and was impressed with how they handled them. They played that secret spikes scene modestly instead of over-jokingly, and lend an excuse as to why they would be a good asset. I love how when Stoic hears "Dargo Bloodyfist," they don't just explain him immediately. Instead, they cut to everyone running through what looks like a medieval catacomb (action!), and for a minute, I thought they were going to some secret room with scrolls or something until he said "Man the fort!"
    The ship burial is good for numerous reasons. It pays homage to the ending of book 1 (Hiccup and Toothless were almost buried at sea during their comas) and Viking Tradition. I kind of want to be buried that way! Gobber's traditional elegy was fantastic and epic. And then there's that shot where we see Hiccup's silhouette surrounded by the distant flames. I always like to parallel that shot with the ending shot of "Test Drive," but without motion, as if the plasma blast was supposed to represent Hiccup's future. And now I'll mention Jay. Now the majority of the audience of the first film hated Jay Baruchel's voice. And I began as lenient toward them. It's one of the factors I had to get used to before seeing the first movie. But soon I realized, it fit's the character and the character's nose! He stutters less in the sequel, which is a relief (I still have problems with the dialogue in the part where Astrid discovers Toothless in the cove). But then there is this line at the next cove scene (night) where Hiccup says in a serious voice, "Yes." That marked a turning point where his voice felt more feasible. Now in the sequel, they address this in a small but hilarious, entertaining way when Astrid mimics him ("I don't sound like that!" "You just did!"). But to say where his best voice was, the ship burial was it. This was the moment where I felt he was the one Hiccup, and no one else could play the role. His voice hit just the right tone for the character, and the scene was just perfection. And Valka's line was, too. We do, of course, wish their reunion was longer.
    Speaking of Valka's introduction, I had very few trailers broadcasted on HTTYD2, so there's a chance that I might get to see the reaction of some people (my parents) who didn't see the spoiler-trailer. I would love to see their reaction to this! Maybe even hold a contest about it! How does anyone react to the image of a tusked mollusk-dragon, caped man-bear-pig rising over a cloud, stalking a flyer, and sinking back down only to come back up and snatch the flying rider off his dragon?! I gotta capture that reaction, and it has to be of someone's first viewing experience with this scene! Woo!

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  117. That's so cool! What art school are you in? My friend just went to college for art. :)

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  118. Just got my invite! Definitely going now. :)

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  119. Sigh... It's always Los Angelos...

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  120. Oh, THAT'S what the Exp. Bonus is! It happened to me(Cloudjumper vs. Whispering Death I think) and it said Experience Bonus Activate! Or something like that and I was thinking "uh, great!" but now I know how to activate it. Sharp over Boulder actually didn't surprise me as much as Boulder over Tidal. How that would work is a mystery to me! And Powerful Toothless is the Comic-Con exclusive right?

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  121. Well perhaps we will be able to watch it on YouTube. Or even better- the episodes will be posted here!

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  122. Velocity is an excellent name by the way! If I had a Stormcutter, I think I'd name it Starfighter or Clawdodger. If I had a Night Fury, maybe Stormbolt.

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  123. Hello. Were you originally Johntheoceanzap?

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  124. My first card was actually Toothless. I got lucky!

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  125. recieved the invite today!!!! looks like fun :)

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  126. Yes I was.

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  127. O: O: DRAGONSDAY ???????

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  128. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 8, 2014 at 8:50 PM

    Visit the studio and see the model relics encased in glass along with a tiny background sculpture or 2 of upcoming projects? Suite. If they take you indoors, let me know if they've displays of models from their hand-drawn films (I always wondered if they made sculpture references for flat animation as well as 3D.) Two hours in the screen test room to see a completed project...or is it outdoors? Questions!
    Twitter? Well that blows. Is bringing a guest a requisite or could you go by yourself?

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  129. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 8, 2014 at 8:51 PM

    South Carolina Art Department?

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  130. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 8, 2014 at 8:55 PM

    Here wouldn't be a good idea. Remember the videos tend to take forever to load, and we can't get the scrollbar to respond while we wait. I do know some cartoon sites, however. I can still use them via Google Chrome, but I prefer Internet Explorer.

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  131. ill have to see all that i can!!! good questions though.... i know its a HTTYD2 screening so its nothing we havent seen already. as far as the guest thing goes, im not sure! but i already do have someone to go with me so its not much of a concern. ill let you know if i find out anything more before the big day comes :) and of course ill report back with everything i DO see on the 24th

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  132. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 8, 2014 at 8:58 PM

    Drop a stone and catch a fish, like Jimmy Bean in Disney's Pollyanna.
    And yes, Powerful Toothless is the 999,999-point Comic-Convention exclusive.

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  133. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 8, 2014 at 9:42 PM

    The whole Grapevine thanks your attendance. [Y;>)}

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  134. for sure!!! im just thankful i was invited to such a cool thing

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  135. I don't think I want to spill out too much information online please.

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  136. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 8, 2014 at 9:49 PM

    And then the first card I bought was a Terrible Terror (original Toothless). AHAH, that was a mistake. I didn't win a battle with that and a Monstrous Nightmare for the first 2 weeks. But now I've got variety on my side. Now I'll have to skip a day (It'll still only give you 3 challenges, no adding days feature) to get it on schedule, cause it had just reset it's update clock to IDK not daytime. Happens when you achieve a full level. I actually joined the Grapevine the day I got a DreamWorks account for that card game.

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  137. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 8, 2014 at 9:54 PM

    OK. just a random guess; got thrown of by the D. Anyway, I'm trying to get to a film arts college, so I have to check these things out. It's outstanding that your class gets to see a late screening.

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  138. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 8, 2014 at 11:11 PM

    Oh, Bashed iron-ores of a Groncle's loogie! I thought I sent the message (a long one). I'll have to talk about the scene where they man the fort upon the mention of Drago and the ship scene in a review-comment later. But I will address 2 things.
    The pacing is a mixed bag thanks in part to the change in editors. While the 3rd act is well-paced, the 1st and 2nd (with Valka kidnapping Hiccup as the act 2 mark) are a little too apparent in their split. I say this because when I first saw the movie, The 1st act felt fast while the 2nd felt fine. But in the second viewing, it was the reverse. But other than that, and even though I was a fan of the once legendarily acclaimed Pixar, this film turned o be the first film I saw that I knew I would enjoy without a cringe. (I saw the clip with Toothless' spikes, and it relieved me to find them downplaying it while still giving it reason instead of over-the-top entirely. And setting it after a fun scene? Perfected sense of tone!)
    Speaking of Valka, I am hoping to capture my parent's reaction to her intro. You see, the director originally wanted to keep her relation with Hiccup a secret. Then the executives ruined the surprise. So seeing how there was barely any ads or merchandise from my area, I can assure that the scene hadn't been spoiled for them. And so, I probably came up with a challenge to see who can capture the best first reaction to Valka's intro. I mean, how do you react to the image of a caped, clawed man-bear-pig with a mollusk-tusk head and carved buzzing staff rising over the clouds, standing and stalking you on the clouds with the stillness of a statue, and sinking back down only to jump back up to capture you as your dragon falls to the ice below? It's so surreal and hilarious at the same time! But if you don't know the identity of that figure?

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  139. In 3D! They did the same thing with the Lego Movie earlier this spring. It was in 3D too. :)

    And I bet if you just goggle scad you'll know what it is.

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  140. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 9, 2014 at 3:24 PM

    I have to use the nearest theater (HTTYD2 was the last one for the theater at the edge of town) from now on. Sadly, it only has one cineplex and it only does 2D showing. It's the cheep theater for a reason, one of which is you have no options. It's three movies a week or so, and all of them are either leaving the next closest theater's line up or went to DVD four years ago. I actually paid for a 3D show on HTTYD2 at the bigger theater (still have the glasses) and ended up seeing the 2D show. But thanks to scheduling conflicts, I couldn't change the time, and even the site said I was going at the 3D screening time. As for The Lego Movie, I waited for it to show at the cheep theater.
    I learned two things from an introductory book of poetry today. "A Red, Red Rose" by Robert Burns (in Scottish dialect) kind of reminds me of "For the Dancing and the Dreaming." And I learned of the skards, the early Scandinavian storytellers. They told the news in verse as bards when scribes could not be decoded by the many, before the presses made literacy plausible among men.

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  141. Ah. I had been wondering if you would change your name when I found out the Oceanzap was changed to the Seashocker.

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  142. Yeah I was not gonna change my name but said no so people would not get confused then my ocean zap account stopped working.

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  143. I love that picture of Toothless.

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  144. I actually live in Colorado, and I hear you. I live practically in a cow pasture, but it's still considered a subdivision. Tell Cedarain I said hi. Ps. You should stop by the dragonchat in the forum. It's a great place to have unrelated conversations without breaking rules. :)

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  145. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 9, 2014 at 11:14 PM

    I'll look for it. Just that last time, my computer paused and undid my profile changes (I wrote lyrics to New Tail as my signature). It also said join a chat and listed available chats. So I have to find ways to start a chat. P.S. I'm not sure if it'll show up, but on the subject "You know your a HTTYD fan when...," I made a comment. I hope it does, along with the signature. And by the way, I've noticed that a lot of voice actors seem to come from Colorado. Of course, when I moved across the country, I couldn't go off to visit a convention. But I did get lost. The straight lines on a road map with hills were in reality met with 7 hours of unexpected hills. So before Nebraska, I did manage to see your state. People at breakfast seemed friendly, but the street signs seemed backwards to me the navigator. And I was moving to a small town, which wasn't showing on the map until my parents revealed the other name halfway through.
    Cedarain is my Trough-Trobber dragon, sniffing out the weather: a week without rain for the first time since my arrival. Here's a photo of him.

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  146. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 9, 2014 at 11:20 PM

    Why can't we add photos when editing comments or checking our notifications?

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  147. Why cant they have something like this in Austraila! I mean that just because where the largest island dosent mean that we dont have lots fo fans! We dont have walmart in our great country (i put this in because i heard that lots of merchandice was sold there) so it makes it difficult with getting the stuff! So i wish that they would have something like this in Austraila
    P.S
    Dreamworks have alreddy got an animation exhibition on till the 26th of october and i have been bugging my pearnts about it so we might go on the weekend!

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  148. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 10, 2014 at 5:54 AM

    Actually there is no Dragon merchandise at my Wal-Mart. They had plush toys for five days then replaced them with TMNT. Even the bed sheets were lacking Dragons. All that's there now are the DVDs. As for other merchandise, howtotrainyourdragon.com has occasional unite posts that state where to buy party favors and costumes and stuff. I had never even heard of any of those stores except Target in the next town over, and even that store had nothing. So how long do drives go in the Down Under?

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  149. Im sorry if i upset anyone but i just find it a bit upstetting

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  150. DVD wise just 20 minutes merchandise wise your looking at about hong kong for the Cheapest things or what did you mean by that last question.

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  151. Just saw HTTYD2 last night at a thing my college set up and it was glorious as ever. :D

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  152. how did your college get a copy?

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  153. I don't know? SCAD has a lot of kids who graduate go to DreamWorks and Disney as animators so I guess we get a few privileges?

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  154. Whose ready for #DragonsDay?

    Join us at @DWAnimation on Twitter on October 24 for a How to Train Your Dragon 2 GLOBAL watch party! http://bit.ly/DragonsDay_Kickoff

    Whose all going!?

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  155. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 10, 2014 at 4:29 PM

    I don't have twitter so I don't have a yes option for this event. K:'<\}

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  156. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 10, 2014 at 5:09 PM

    I mean how long of a drive to the museum does it take from your area. Where I am, everyone seems to go to the next state on every holiday, and just about every non-grocery errand requires me to go to one of several towns 45 minutes away in every direction (Highways). I wanted to know if events like this on the "largest island" take hours or HOURS (more than 6) to get to. I've read that roads there tend to be straight and empty enough for a 4-trailer road train to make a relatively quick delivery, whereas the Hawaiian bridges alone (I've lived there before) had so many curves and hills around the mountains that it turned 3 kilometers into 3 hours of traffic.

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  157. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 10, 2014 at 5:25 PM

    I was just thinking, "Only the best Vikings go after those....Well this one just came to me!" LOL

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  158. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 10, 2014 at 5:54 PM

    I was just thinking, "Only the best Vikings go after those....Well this one just came to me!" [S;>P}

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  159. I got my Twitter for the Dragons anniversary and never used it since, but I do recommend just making one for this event and any others they'll have. :) I dislike that website, but it's awesome to talk to fans on such a popular site besides here and fanfiction.

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  160. I understand. I was just curious and looking for art departments and write an essay for my art teacher and whatnot. I wanted to work at DW or Disney once and so I needed a college that relates to the copy or whatever.

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  161. Ahhh to the museum it takes about 20min -1 hour. Depends on how the west gate bridge is or that there aren't any delays with the train service ( the Melbourne museum).And the roads do tend to be straight but it depends on where your going. If your going to Merimbula then the roads can be twisty but theres a highway going form here Adelaide to Perth thats called: Eyre Highway
    Western Australia – South Australia

    General information
    Type Highway
    Length 1,675 km (1,041 mi)
    Opened 1941
    Route number(s)
    National Highway 1 (Norseman - SA/WA border)
    National Highway A1(SA/WA border - Port Augusta)
    Former
    route number National Highway 1 (SA/WA border - Port Augusta)
    Major junctions
    West end Coolgardie-Esperance Highway,(National Highway 94 / National Route 1), Norseman, Western Australia
    Flinders Highway (B100)
    Streaky Bay Road
    Tod Highway (B90)
    Lincoln Highway (B100)
    Stuart Highway (National Highway A87)
    East end Augusta Highway (National Highway A1), Port Augusta, South Australia
    All one long high way! Though i still wish that they have a littol more than just an exhibition that mainly features Madagascar 1 2 3!

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  162. Ohh and yes more than 6 hours! If sydney is is about 10 hours drive in good weather conditions! I dont even want to know what perth is !
    Sent from my iPad

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  163. I hope to see you there! They've updated it so it's no different than the comment section of the grapevine pages. I'll look for your comment. Haha, well it would appear you didn't see the best side of my state lol.

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  164. Ok, hope to see you there! They've updated the chat, so it's no different than the comment section here. Haha, it would appear you didn't see my state in her best light lol Lucky, we've had nothing but rain.

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  165. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 10, 2014 at 10:32 PM

    We moved in the summer, through the cities then the hills of Colorado along the way. But coning to where I am, there's been far too much rain. Every camp: rain and thunder ensues. Not to mention I was moving from a desert. Having so little rain that you can predict the exact four days of the year with rain is now backwards. The new place was in a drought until I showed up, and then we had to cancel every beach day due to adverse weather. With the change of climate, I became part reptile in that I couldn't sweat normally below the head. I've finally started adjusting to the climate two weeks ago. At once I missed rain, but now I have to hate it.

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  166. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 10, 2014 at 10:51 PM

    I suppose they're more focused on promoting "Penguins of Madagascar at this time. Or it's young yet, though that wouldn't excuse the lack of Shrek and Kung Fu Panda, would it? I'm within a daylight's distance away from the American Revolution history areas (Washington DC, the next colony-state, etc.), but most of my schoolmates go there for visiting their close ties. I'm not into reading history though. We went just to get it over with until one of us delayed our return by reading every fact-sign.
    Whenever I use directions like that, there always ends up a wrong turn by the ending quarter, with roads that don't exist until after four hours locked in a logging dirt road. I've had enough of MapQuest, but that's the GPS program. So a ton of turns can break the moons, but words can only guide me...wherever the moons aren't beaming (moons as in satellites).

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  167. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 10, 2014 at 11:06 PM

    Remember the Live Chat with the voice of Eret? A question I always wondered was "What are those chin tattoo markings for?" and also, "How long has he been working for Drago; since boyhood or upon reaching adult age?" The latter could be answered by looking at the battle scene. If there were children in that battle or a ship, that would mean he'd been working for Drago at a young age, no child labor restictions remaining upon Drago's invasion of his now lost village.

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  168. Toothless the Dragon KingOctober 11, 2014 at 2:11 PM

    YAY I hatched whispering Death EGG in Sod YAY a new tunnel near the great hall..

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  169. My uncle works at SCAD

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  170. Toothless the Dragon KingOctober 11, 2014 at 10:27 PM

    Who is using School of Dragons please tell me his friend code.

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  171. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 12, 2014 at 1:57 AM

    How do you use a friend code? I'll still have to install that 3d player, but I've searched the menus for that button to the left of some missing "clans" button where I'm supposed to type in the code via the bottom option of the dialog box. How do I get to the code box. And I've no activity to say I exist on SoD yet, so does that affect my ability to join clans? Friend code= join clans, right?

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  172. You don't need to bring a guest, haha. It's fine to go by yourself -- technically I'm going with three other people, but we all got individual invites, so we could bring along four more if we wanted.

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  173. Toothless the Dragon KingOctober 12, 2014 at 8:12 AM

    No nooo I Will give u A Picture

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  174. Toothless the Dragon KingOctober 12, 2014 at 8:47 AM

    These are it.

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  175. Toothless the Dragon KingOctober 12, 2014 at 8:50 AM

    These are it..

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  176. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 12, 2014 at 1:25 PM

    I've found the account activation message under Google promotions (took forever, I know). Now I'm trying to find time to install Unity Web Player. 3 hours of keeping the monitor active, and no activity. I'll keep installation running for a while, because I've another errand.

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  177. hiccupandtoothlesshybridOctober 12, 2014 at 4:21 PM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeH6qocdXJs

    this is apparently a lecked score for how to train your dragon 3. it's said to have been recorded during httyd 2. know we don't have an official storyline for the third but because its said to be the final we know dean is planning on doing something with Hiccup and toothless know we don't know what that is but all in all enjoy this piece.

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  178. Sounds like something for Game of Thrones. Oh, boy is the rest of the GoT cast going to co-star in the third film? XD

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  179. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 12, 2014 at 6:59 PM

    Sounds like they're gonna do another age jump with Hiccup (and I hope they do, to an extent). Or it could be temp music. It sounds very little like the HTTYD tracks we know, and we've had fake-outs before. Remember how there was a HTTYD2 track called "The Wedding"? It was debunked in the end when the samples were released. So the third film WILL be the final, huh?
    P.S. I know not the plotline of the third film, but I do know what will be done with Toothcup/Hicctooth/Hiccless/Cupless, and I oathed not to tell anyone on this site without the viewer's consent because it is obviously a spoiler. I'm trying to get my opinion about it out there, but I think the petition about it has already reached its required amount of signatures. So I'm late.

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  180. what classes do you take?

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  181. Toothless the Dragon KingOctober 13, 2014 at 2:03 PM

    Watching riders of berk in Arabic:P

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  182. Toothless the Dragon KingOctober 13, 2014 at 2:04 PM

    Boneknapper in SoD

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  183. Arabic?! I need that, where are you watching this from?

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  184. Kind of a spoiler...take dis to da forums!

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  185. Sorry, that's personal information I want to keep for myself. I will tell you that I'm majoring in Dramatic Writing so that I can become a animated screenplay writer. I want to work in either Disney or DreamWorks. (mostly the later because DRAGONS! :D)

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  186. Ziggerastica's KalevalaOctober 13, 2014 at 10:53 PM

    To me it sounds like what Han Solo said to the officer when he set off to find Luke (basically "See ya...!"). But alas, there's a danger in this that may occur just before or while we hear this track. I still think this is a temp track for the next film. Powell said that he hated temp music because it forces him to try to sound like the temp track artist (Audiomachine, Two Steps from Hell, an action movie theme) as opposed to letting himself be creative with the story. There was limited temp for the second film, but for one bit of temp, he said you'd never recognize what it originally was because the final sounds completely different. So I assume this is temp created specifically by and for Powell. But aIas I know a worse title. With this, it could be heard with Hiccup's sarcastic voice ["Now you know where I get my dramatic flair." (flies away)]. This however, sounds like an aftermath to that, scenes later in the dangerous outer regions of the map.

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